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Who’s going to win the election. Should we be investing in Balaclava sales?

And is the fiscal plan to keep issuing Irish passports to people whose granny went to Cork once until there’s enough money in the coffers for everyone to retire at 50?

Surely it’s “dan dish”, not “than this”?

I mulled it over and erred on the side of caution.

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I’m definitely voting Fail.

(joke fails when JJ points out it’s pronounced “hamster”)


Shinners aren’t running enough people for that to relate to even bring close to the major coalition partner. Their very recent increase in popularity took even them by surprise.

PR-STV system also means that those numbers may be dramatically different by the time it translates to seats. That’s an exit poll, and only looks at First Preference. SF have traditionally got any transfers from out parties. Whereas FF and FG being effectively the same party means they ofter get each others transfers.

GreatEx, your glass house is going to need a total rebuild if you keep up the “weird pronunciation/silly names” line of stone throwing.

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For the last time, we do NOT call them chuzzwuzzahs!

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It’s pronounced Feena Fall by the way, the accent (called a fada, which means long) on the à makes it a long vowel sound.

Dis party finna fall on its arse, m8

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So Varadkar made it through on 5th preference. How embarrassing.

It’s positively Churchillian.

If FF/FG are effectively the same party, why are they two different parties?


They are fairly close, but there are some differences. The phrase that is often used here is that they are two cheeks of the same arse.

A bit of background. The two parties came out of the same group of people, who ended up on opposite sides of the Irish Civil war. One side was for the treaty to give the 26 counties (a form of) Independence, and believed it was a “first step”. The other was agin’ it, and believed that it was the only time to get an all island republic.

It shifts around a bit depending on who is leading each party at the time, but basically FF tend to be less fiscally conservative. I would say that FF seem to move around between centre right to centre left fiscally depending on the leader at the time. Whereas FG are fairly locked down centre right fiscally. FF would be fairly locked down centre right on social issues, whereas FG move around on this a bit more.

FF have traditionally been supported by small business/farmers, with FG being for big business/farmers.

Where it has moved around a bit in recent years is that FG have moved to be more liberal on social issues, but that is a new development. On the repeal of the abortion restrictions, for instance, most FG voted to repeal the constitutional ban, most FF vote to keep it.

Both parties have a strong rural base, and generational voting patterns, with urban support being the floating voter block that puts one or the other in government… until now.

Because there has never really being a viable alternative for the second party, should they combine, it is probably better that they existed separately until now. Labour briefly looked like they would be strong enough to maybe provide that, but they were pretty much wiped out before they ever got enough support to be the majority partner in a coalition Government (obviously we tend to have coalition governments). Labour/Green/Social Democrats/Others struggle to get support outside of urban centres, and likely will continue to. Luckily we have never had a hard right party that even got enough votes to get the deposit back for the crackpot candidates they run.

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He bulk bought his coke anyway.

You don’t get that with Michael Bisping.